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10 Oct 2010 22:59 #1607 by 928mac
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Porkentensioner (air pump version) $300.

Constantine Clamp $300.

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And the Sharktuner-2 on sale
found here
www.performance928.com/cgi-bin/page_disp...=qa7uk&pass_parent=0

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10 Oct 2010 23:53 #1608 by 928mac
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I would also like to know what is out there for a top end refresh.
What all will I need?

I am pulling the engine this winter.

of coarse I need to know all of the gaskets that are required.
I would like the colored vacuum lines.
I need all new fuel lines and and the fuel diaphragm in the front.
and anything else that I may require.

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11 Oct 2010 12:26 #1612 by srshaw3
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Here is the list I worked off of, when I did mine:
2 cam chains
8 tensioner sealing rings
26 cam cover pressure gaskets
10 intake pressure gaskets
8 spark plug hole gaskets
2 intake-to-head gaskets
2 cover-to-head gaskets
4 plug/breather elbow o-rings use gasket sealer
4 rear cam seals
1 MAS rubber "elbow" breather hoses 928.110.432.01
1 MAS rubber "elbow" breather hoses 928.107.313.02
1 MAS rubber "elbow" breather hoses 928.110.174.09
1 MAS rubber "elbow" breather hoses 928.110.663.00
1 MAS rubber "elbow" breather hoses 928.107.603.00
1 MAS rubber "elbow" breather hoses 928.110.224.00
1 MAS elbow duct
2 knock sensors
1 ISV WOT/Idle switch
1 oil filler neck gasket
1 vacuum actuator for flappy
1 rubber cap for flappy on intake
2 throttle body to intake gasket
1 hall sensor
1 impulse sender
1 fuel hose (rubber) rail to damper
1 fuel hose (rubber) damper to regulator
1 fuel hose (rubber/steel) damper to pside
1 fuel line (steel) p-side rear regulator to return
1 ISV
1 WOT/Idle switch
8 spark plugs
2 distributor caps
2 ignition rotors
set Magnercor wires
2 cam gears coated
1 crank gear coated
1 oil pump sprocket coated
1 timing belt
2 cam covers powder coated
1 intake powder coated
1 vacuum line kit
8 fuel injectors (clean)

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11 Oct 2010 19:44 #1613 by Kiln_Red
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Are you planning to pull the heads?

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12 Oct 2010 01:00 #1615 by 928mac
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Are you planning to pull the heads?


I was not planning on it but It has been bothering me knowing that the gaskets may be shifting by now.
I am not sure how the head gaskets stand up.
Some alu blocks/head gaskets last 200 thou, some only last 100 thou, like the chev quad 4. I had to do them every 100 thou.
Is there a definit failure rate or dose everyone just do them because...

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12 Oct 2010 01:04 #1616 by srshaw3
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Poor coolant choice, or lack of periodic changing, is a common failure cause for 928 head gaskets.

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12 Oct 2010 01:14 #1617 by 928mac
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Poor coolant choice, or lack of periodic changing, is a common failure cause for 928 head gaskets.


well it had poor coolent when I got it alright. rustoly brown.
flushed it for hours because someone said do not use any cleaner. water dose not clean well.
Dam now I am thinking that I can't let it go another season

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12 Oct 2010 16:47 #1638 by pcar928fan
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Love that clamp! When I take the trans out of my S4 to replace with another one I will use one of these bad boys! How much are they again??? Does Roger stock them?

James
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12 Oct 2010 17:44 #1639 by 928mac
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Love that clamp! When I take the trans out of my S4 to replace with another one I will use one of these bad boys! How much are they again??? Does Roger stock them?


I bought this one off of a guy for $300.
here is more info
reutterwerk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9578

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12 Oct 2010 18:06 #1640 by 928mac
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I also plan on rebuilding the trans.
there is a thread started here
forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/928-forum...ild-needed-soon.html

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12 Oct 2010 18:11 #1642 by 928mac
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I am seriously thinking of installing the 928 Motorsports TEC GT Engine Management System (EMS) kit, which is a complete replacement for all of these items on the 928:
The entire stock ignition system
The entire stock fuel injector system
The entire fuel injector wiring harness
The distributor caps, ignition coils, and spark plug wires
The stock LMB (injection) computer
The stock EZK (ignition) computer.
The stock MAF (Mass Air Flow) Sensor

the reason is on the page below

www.928motorsports.com/parts/tec_gt_engi...ement.php#enthusiast

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14 Oct 2010 08:33 #1653 by Kiln_Red
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Brad, I wouldn't worry about the transmission until you're positive it needs more attention than a simple pan gasket/filter job or a slight adjustment. That is, unless you're sure that you're experiencing some slipping. These MB transmissions are tough man!!

On the other hand, if I were you, I would definitely do the head gaskets while you have the engine pulled. Head gasket trouble is much more common on earlier cars for some reason. Perhaps that is just simply for the fact that they're older and that many earlier cars have "sat up" for years at a time whereas the later 928s typically haven't received the same kind of neglect. The only way to replace the head gaskets on your '89 is with the engine out of the car so why not seize the opportunity now, you know? In another ten years, every S4/GT under the sun may have a leaking pair of head gaskets. You never know. It seems a lot of the deferred maintenance issues with 928s surface with owners all at the same time. Look up thrust bearing failure as an example. I am unaware as to when the first failure was reported. However, it seems that it has only become a real enough threat for owners to regularly check their flex plate migration in like the last ten years. See my point? Also, as a long time professional mechanic, I know you know that gaskets don't last forever. Do the head gaskets, man. You won't regret it. :cool:

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14 Oct 2010 11:26 #1655 by 928mac
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You talked me into it Austin.
I have the engine stand, I have been debating if I should go with the hole in the roof and a come-along or a portable engine crane. If my garage was bigger it would be the crane for sure, Hmmm maybe I will rent one, Hmmm.

Ok so...

looked at the gasket kits out there and I hate victor gaskets.
phoned Carl at 928 MS and ta-da bought a good gasket kit (little more money) but .... they arn't cheep gaskets.
www.928motorsports.com/parts/complete_gasket_set.php

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Carl also has 3 types of custom head gaskets. custom thicknesses and composition.
1- www.928motorsports.com/parts/graphite_steel_gaskets.php
2- www.928motorsports.com/parts/copper_head_gaskets.php
3- www.928motorsports.com/parts/headgaskets.php

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16 Oct 2010 17:45 #1674 by ROG100
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Hi Brad,
For someone who hates VR gaskets you sure bought a lot of them. The gasket set and the Porsche set are both made by VR. The Porsche set is circa $700 and we sell the VR set for $420. I hope Carl did not tell you his set was not VR. He still has the VR boxes in his pictures.
Hope that helps.
Roger

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16 Oct 2010 18:05 #1675 by Kiln_Red
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Hi Brad,
For someone who hates VR gaskets you sure bought a lot of them. The gasket set and the Porsche set are both made by VR. The Porsche set is circa $700 and we sell the VR set for $420. I hope Carl did not tell you his set was not VR. He still has the VR boxes in his pictures.
Hope that helps.
Roger


I didn't want to be the one to point this out. Glad it was you.

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16 Oct 2010 22:00 #1677 by 928mac
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Yes he did mention that the stock porsche is VR.
He is putting together a custom kit for me.
Guess i shouldn't have posted the picture.

Gretchen Phoned right away, I talked to Carl about the gasket quality, they followed with the e-mail below.

I was happy to reduce the cost of gasket. Please keep the attached copy of the invoice.
I have listed the bores and thicknesses of the gasket on the order that you need to choose from.
Let me know your preferences so that I can have it made and ready to ship with the remainder of your order
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I am going with the Silicone/Copper Head Gaskets
bore sizes: 95,97,100 or 104mm My 89 S4 is a 100 mm bore
thickness of gasket: 0.040. 0.050, 0.056 or 0.064" I chose 0.050

To me service over cost gets my business, but some people prefer to get the cheapest price.
It is good to have both.
Thank you for making sure that I knew what I was getting Roger.


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19 Oct 2010 14:11 #1711 by 928mac
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Hi Brad,
For someone who hates VR gaskets you sure bought a lot of them. The gasket set and the Porsche set are both made by VR. The Porsche set is circa $700 and we sell the VR set for $420. I hope Carl did not tell you his set was not VR. He still has the VR boxes in his pictures.
Hope that helps.
Roger


I guess I miss understood Carl, Thanks for pointing that out Roger. I went back and clarified it with Carl. He only has custom Head Gaskets. I did see some BBK, and Mr Gasket, Gaskets on line but if they were any good the performance guys would be using them, right. I was hoping for a fel-pro intake set, cost is not a factor if the lower cost part fails.

Brad

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19 Oct 2010 22:35 #1726 by SeanR
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Damn, not sure where to start.

You can pull the heads on anything '87 forward with the engine in the car. They have bolts, not studs. Which means you have the clearance to do so.

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20 Oct 2010 07:47 #1730 by Kiln_Red
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Damn, not sure where to start.

You can pull the heads on anything '87 forward with the engine in the car. They have bolts, not studs. Which means you have the clearance to do so.


I had forgot that detail about the later models. I tell you what. The hardest part may be just getting the darn valve covers off. That was kind of a challenge for me recently on an '85. Of course that car still featured the studs rather than the bolts, so in my case, the engine had to be out. It must be nice to have bolts rather than studs.

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20 Oct 2010 09:46 #1736 by srshaw3
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I pulled apart a few '86s, at least one with head bolts. I don't know if they went from studs in '85 or '86 to head bolts, or if I just found one (or more) that had been de-studded already.

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20 Oct 2010 10:56 #1737 by 928mac
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Well I had planed on pulling it before I even decided on the list in post #11.

There is a broken lifting stud on the Drivers rear, All hoses need to be changed, new wire harness as in post #11 and just a general climb on into the empty engine bay and fix everything that is not 100% plus repaint or protect in what ever way is required.

Then clean and refresh top end, replace all hose clamps with chrome.
I am still waiting for some venders to get back to me about Stainless steel braided (SB)hose (only one of them has hint hint ;)) I need the fittings for the fuel rails (M-12?) to the SB hose or to JIC
Lots to do.
Brad

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04 Nov 2010 00:28 #1877 by 928mac
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Bought a new crane to pull the engine with.
with this one I have to slide the legs out and stand them in a holder to put it away. Not the folding legs of the more expensive style.

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04 Nov 2010 13:37 #1880 by pcar928fan
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Brad,

You are GOOD TO GO NOW!!!

James
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